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...@@ -2275,3 +2275,138 @@ works, but also amateur videos using their music in the background, or musicians ...@@ -2275,3 +2275,138 @@ works, but also amateur videos using their music in the background, or musicians
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"This kind of content fingerprinting, being both easy "This kind of content fingerprinting, being both easy
and oblivious to nuance, encourages these kinds of shotgun tactics." //compare blog post on upload filters and oblivious to nuance, encourages these kinds of shotgun tactics." //compare blog post on upload filters
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\cite{HalKitRied2011}
purpose of reverts:
"fix mistakes, repair vandalism, and help enforce
policy."
effect of reverts on newcomers and more experienced editors;
demotivate editors; reduce contributions vs higher quality edits
effect of reverts according to tenure of the reverting editors;
reverts by anonymous editors not very impactful
reverts by more experienced users deminish contributions significantly
"Essentially,
editors reverted by anonymous editors recover to the same
average level of activity within a couple of weeks, but those
reverted by named editors do not recover for at least one
month (if ever)."
"we suspected that the long-
term effect on reverted editors could have been due to edi-
tors being demotivated enough to leave Wikipedia entirely."
contribution: "ours is the first study we are aware of to quantify the
impact of reverts on editor behavior."
Findings in a nutshell:
"(1) reverts do have a negative
impact on editor contribution and survival, especially for
newcomers; and (2) when editors do continue to contribute
after a revert, the quality of their contributions increases."
What can findings be used for:
"design of intelligent tools for supporting reverts that enhance
their beneficial effects while minimizing costs."
4 Research questions:
RQ1: How does being reverted affect the quantity
of editor work?
RQ2: How does being reverted affect the quality of
editor work?
RQ3: How does being reverted affect communica-
tion?
RQ4: How does experience moderate the effects of
reverts on contribution?
editing is easy for everyone: also for malicious/biased users
so reverting is also easy -> reduces cost for fixing damage
total percentage of reverts has increased over time
"tasks that may pro-
duce high group value can increase individual motivation;"
"Getting reverted may make individuals feel that their con-
tributions are not valued by the group and are not leading to
positive group outcomes, resulting in demotivating effects."
"being reverted could be part of the learning
process for editors."
Wikipedia’s Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle
more policies and guidelines -> newcomers are reverted at higher rates
Data sample: 400 000 revisions; January 2010 data dump
200 000 samples of not reverted revisions used as a control group
no two revisions performed by the same editor
Quantity measures:
Revisions/day
Words added/day: number of non-stop words added to articles per day
Quality measures:
Reverts/revision: "the proportion of an editor’s revisions
that have been reverted in a given timespan."
PWR/word: "the average number
of revisions that words added by an editor persist. Higher
quality contributions should, on average, last longer."
Boldness measures:
Words changed per revision
Establishment of words removed: the average PWR of
words that an edit removes
users may appear to make higher quality contributions by making "safer" edits
Productivity measures:
combines quality and quantity to estimate impact
PWR/day:
all these measures focused on articles; don't consider improvements on policy pages, etc;
Measuring communication:
- about articles: article talk page -> Article Talk revisions/day
- personal communication between editors: user talk page -> User Talk revisions/day
"editors who are reverted are less likely
to get reverted in the future."
"After a revert, old-timer editors do experience a tempo-
rary reduction to their article activity, but they return to the
level of activity of their not-reverted counterparts within two
weeks of being reverted. For newbie editors, the difference
in the activity delta is both stronger and longer-lasting. Re-
verted newbies take more than four weeks to return to the
activity levels of not-reverted newbies."
but less experienced editors learn more from reverts and have bigger improvements in their article quality
"activity
of editors reverted by newbies will recover within two weeks,
the activity of editors reverted by old-timers did not recover
in the four observed weeks."
"Another interpretation is that old-timers
have an enhanced ability to identify unconstructive editors
and chase them away" // wistful thinking
interestingly:
"Under our measure of pro-
ductivity (PWR/day), the net effect of reverts on Wikipedia
is positive: on average, an editor who is reverted produces
more persistent words per day – even if we include those
editors who withdraw from Wikipedia in the calculation!"
"Our research suggests that overall reverting activity in
Wikipedia is healthy and valuable,"
"there are
specific cases in which reverting activity might be managed
better"
"the reverting editor should be
encouraged to provide clear feedback to help the reverted
editor grow as a member of the community." // yeah. I bet this never happens
"Newcomers should be reached out
to actively to help them become socialized into Wikipedia."
"more curmudgeonly old-timers should be
kept away from newcomers until they have gained some ex-
perience in the system."
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